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    Garden of Weeden. LOL. Clever title guys.

    As always, can't ruin my workday productivity reading this piece so will def. check it out in the evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone_E View Post
    Garden of Weeden. LOL. Clever title guys.

    As always, can't ruin my workday productivity reading this piece so will def. check it out in the evening.
    How high is a great movie :P

    cant wait to read the write up after work.

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    After Luck and RGIII there is not a QB in this draft good enough to be a 1st round pick. Do not care what the experts say, Weeden, Tannehill and the kid from ASU are all not very good QBs.
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    There is plenty of good WRs that will fit Philbins offense in the mid rounds, that if we took a QB in the 1st, we could be good for a lot of years.




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    Quote Originally Posted by mommabilly View Post
    After Luck and RGIII there is not a QB in this draft good enough to be a 1st round pick. Do not care what the experts say, Weeden, Tannehill and the kid from ASU are all not very good QBs.
    I'm going to single out your post.

    I'm not a guru. So I don't know if X QB is going to be great or not. Hell, gurus don't*know either and it is a crapshoot.....but good godamn, CK has an article the length of a small book, and to counter what he said all you could muster is a, "nope, Weeden sucks."

    I mean that is just idiotic. If he's wrong at least put some effort into explaining why you think he's wrong or support your stance with something more than herp derp.

    First the black lineman suck thread you started and now this.........weaksauce.
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    I have RG3, Tannehill and Weedon all rated in the same range and in the first round. Cousins would be next with a second round grade. I have Russell Wilson rated higher than the consensus with a third round grade. I wouldn't consider Foles, Osweiler or any of the others before the fourth. Although Lindley would be intriguing as project that you developed over the next three years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Finascious D View Post
    I'm going to single out your post.

    I'm not a guru. So I don't know if X QB is going to be great or not. Hell, gurus don't*know either and it is a crapshoot.....but good godamn, CK has an article the length of a small book, and to counter what he said all you could muster is a, "nope, Weeden sucks."

    I mean that is just idiotic. If he's wrong at least put some effort into explaining why you think he's wrong or support your stance with something more than herp derp.

    First the black lineman suck thread you started and now this.........weaksauce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mommabilly View Post
    REALLY ???????????? I never once mentioned what color lineman suck, you just did. Its my opinion on both weeden and Osweiller, they both suck. What did ASU do last year with him under center ? suck and yeah, he had a lot to do with them sucking. Throws MANY MANY MAAAAANY interceptions and thats in the BS Pac 12 ya ya league.

    Weeden, again, what has the kid done to equate in being good ? As I said, there is no QBs in this draft outside of RGIII and Luck that should be taken in the first round, As far as an explanation goes, because thats my opinion. As far as black lineman suck, that came out of your lips, not mine amigo. Orlando Pace was one of the best Olineman to play the game, love the guy. What I did say and apparently it ticked you off is what I posted. Never said once any type of player sucked.

    Lets put it this way, if they take Weeden or Tannehill with the first pick and they suck, you will be the first one pounding the drum that,,,,, wait for it, that they suck.
    Yeah you did.

    And I don't care what your opinion of Weeden/Tanny/or Winston Churchill is, its just if its in response to a novel long article that had facts, research and effort, I'd think your rebuttal should have those things too. That's what is supposed to make this site better than the others. CK maybe wrong, but you damn sure did nothing intelligent or meaningful to counter him.
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    Great read CK.... thanks.

    Now I'm even more sold on Weeden than I was before.

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    Weeden's 2nd-3rd round draft advisory grade was last year when he was a year younger; therefore, IMO, being a year older will counterbalance the improvements he made in 2011 since every extra year counts greatly in his case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToddsPhins View Post
    Weeden's 2nd-3rd round draft advisory grade was last year when he was a year younger; therefore, IMO, being a year older will counterbalance the improvements he made in 2011 since every extra year counts greatly in his case.
    I agree with CK that the year of age is secondary to the talent displayed. That should always be the primary analysis.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rafael View Post
    I have RG3, Tannehill and Weedon all rated in the same range and in the first round. Cousins would be next with a second round grade. I have Russell Wilson rated higher than the consensus with a third round grade. I wouldn't consider Foles, Osweiler or any of the others before the fourth. Although Lindley would be intriguing as project that you developed over the next three years.
    Personally, I think Cousins could surprise and go before Weedon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToddsPhins View Post
    Personally, I think Cousins could surprise and go before Weedon.
    Anything is possible, but I don't think his film warrants it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rafael View Post
    I agree with CK that the year of age is secondary to the talent displayed. That should always be the primary analysis.
    I can understand and respect that point of view. It is still hard for me to get over his age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToddsPhins View Post
    Personally, I think Cousins could surprise and go before Weedon.
    I am wondering who will be the biggest surprise in the draft. Every year there is always one in the top 15.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finascious D View Post
    First the black lineman suck thread you started
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