For those why FO is cautious with spending in FA ?

[mommabilly]

Apparently the cap is not rising up this year or in 2013. Makes sense now why teams are not going ballistic in FA this year. Dansby needs to restructure and if Jake thinks he is going to get a mother load contract extension, he had better think again. All that extra big tv money seems to be mostly accounted for, already. I for one am glad those mega rookie contracts are a thing of the past.

Never likes this guy Smith head of the NFLPA, grandstander at best. Apparently he laughed at the better deal. Players should vote his rear end out of office. Guy gives nothing but mouth service.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...s-pretty-good/

[Killer Bees]

You don't think the best Offensive Lineman in the league deserves a big contract?

[Alex44]

Honestly? If you could replace long with an above average LT and use the money to acquire an impact player who actually touches the ball? I'd part ways with Long.

[Da 'Fins]

Several teams have spent big with the cap where it is. They structured it in such a way so that they will take the bigger hits in the future - yet still offer guaranteed money.

It's about ingenuity and manipulation. They simply chose not to go that route - either they didn't know how to manipulate the cap or they aren't willing to spend on the guys that are out there.

[padre31]

Well that, and we have 12 million in dead money in Carey and Marshall.

Or so it has been said, after last yr I find it difficult to trust our FO's cap numbers.

[mommabilly]

You don't think the best Offensive Lineman in the league deserves a big contract?

I like Long but I do not think he is the best offensive lineman in the NFL. Lots of teams make the playoffs yearly with LTs that make far less then Jake Long makes. I think we have to see how he plays before they drop bank on him again. To be honest, I think the team is thinking the same thing, regardless of who the GM is.

The love affair with 60 and 70 million dollar Left Tackles has ended.

[HardKoreXXX]

I like Long but I do not think he is the best offensive lineman in the NFL. Lots of teams make the playoffs yearly with LTs that make far less then Jake Long makes. I think we have to see how he plays before they drop bank on him again. To be honest, I think the team is thinking the same thing, regardless of who the GM is.

The love affair with 60 and 70 million dollar Left Tackles has ended.

So basically the Dolphins drafted a guy at #1 overall, knowing he'd be getting a big payday if he became great, and they should let him walk?

[Silverphin]

I like Long but I do not think he is the best offensive lineman in the NFL. Lots of teams make the playoffs yearly with LTs that make far less then Jake Long makes. I think we have to see how he plays before they drop bank on him again. To be honest, I think the team is thinking the same thing, regardless of who the GM is.

The love affair with 60 and 70 million dollar Left Tackles has ended.

Okay, I'll bite. Which LT's would you put over Long?

[padre31]

Okay, I'll bite. Which LT's would you put over Long?

You could sign Demetrious Bell for cheap, get 85% of the performance and spend that 11 million on guys who score Td's.

Or keep Td's from being scored.

[padre31]

So basically the Dolphins drafted a guy at #1 overall, knowing he'd be getting a big payday if he became great, and they should let him walk?

Not neccessarily, but with the #1 overall guy we still finished 2nd in the NFL for most sacks allowed.

We've had him 4 yrs, has the offense excelled?

[Killer Bees]

Not neccessarily, but with the #1 overall guy we still finished 2nd in the NFL for most sacks allowed.

We've had him 4 yrs, has the offense excelled?

You really blame him for that? he has been the most consistent player on offense

[Silverphin]

Not neccessarily, but with the #1 overall guy we still finished 2nd in the NFL for most sacks allowed.

We've had him 4 yrs, has the offense excelled?

Unless Jake Long has telekinetic powers on the level of Jean Grey, you can't pin all of those sacks on him.

[padre31]

You really blame him for that? he has been the most consistent player on offense

"blame"?

Or just observe?

If the Parcells approach, has failed, then it requires a complete re-examination of everything that approach produced, and where does a 10 million dollar or more, LT fit into the roster/cap mix moving forwards? The "caution" in large part has been produced by overpaying offensive linemen, they kept handing out huge contracts, our performance did not noticeably improve, so why continue to do the same thing?

To me, that is just simple prudence.

[padre31]

Unless Jake Long has telekinetic powers on the level of Jean Grey, you can't pin all of those sacks on him.

He gave up his share, and that is not the "real" point per se, what that would be is look at the investment already made into the offensive line, look at how terrible it has been, does it make sense to continue to do things the same way?

Basically our OL is manned by players who cannot move, we drafted that way, we signed FA's that way, do we continue to do things that way?

[Silverphin]

You could sign Demetrious Bell for cheap, get 85% of the performance and spend that 11 million on guys who score Td's.

Or keep Td's from being scored.

Define 85%

[padre31]

Define 85%

He gave up close to the same amount of sacks Long did, however is not the drive blocker Jake is, do you sign him for say, 6 million? Or pay Big Jake? New scheme is more about movement.

No money for FA's, guess what that means we will doing during Draft Weekend this yr?

And no worries Mr C will be along with the stats from PFF..

[Silverphin]

He gave up his share, and that is not the "real" point per se, what that would be is look at the investment already made into the offensive line, look at how terrible it has been, does it make sense to continue to do things the same way?

Basically our OL is manned by players who cannot move, we drafted that way, we signed FA's that way, do we continue to do things that way?

I never advocated drafting the same way over and over again. I just don't advocate letting Jake Long walk.

[Silverphin]

He gave up close to the same amount of sacks Long did, however is not the drive blocker Jake is, do you sign him for say, 6 million? Or pay Big Jake? New scheme is more about movement.

No money for FA's, guess what that means we will doing during Draft Weekend this yr?

Which I'm glad for. I've been wanting to draft a RT this year anyway.

[Killer Bees]

"blame"?

Or just observe?

If the Parcells approach, has failed, then it requires a complete re-examination of everything that approach produced, and where does a 10 million dollar or more, LT fit into the roster/cap mix moving forwards? The "caution" in large part has been produced by overpaying offensive linemen, they kept handing out huge contracts, our performance did not noticeably improve, so why continue to do the same thing?

To me, that is just simple prudence.

I agree, but I don't think Jake is one of those problems and is deserving of that money, how many LT's in the game can eliminate a teams best pass rusher, and give a your young QB one less worry preparing for game day.

[padre31]

I agree, but I don't think Jake is one of those problems and is deserving of that money, how many LT's in the game can eliminate a teams best pass rusher, and give a your young QB one less worry preparing for game day.

Here is the thing, the old school "base 4-3, my best pass rusher vs your LT" is sort of a thing of the past now, Defenses tend to use more blitz packages or simply put their best passrusher over the RT, who is generally not as athletic. Or they have 2 elite passrushers etc.

Making your 12 million dollar LT..somewhat useless, the idea behind the dominant LT is "protects the Qb's blind side", BUT with the blitz packages and the likelihood that your RT cannot block their best passrusher all game?