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Dolphins | In talks with Jake Scott

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  1. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

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    Dolphins | In talks with Jake Scott
    Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:23:12 -0700

    The Miami Dolphins are in contract negotiations with free-agent OG Jake Scott (Titans).


    Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz1qGofZUxa

    I hope we land him.
     
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  2. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Like I've said before I would say this free agency period is a solid success if we are able to sign Scott.

    We've upgraded the secondary with Marshall who should end up playing FS for us at least in passing situations. I believe Clemons will prove to be a VERY good SS as he will be able to use his natural athleticism to make plays and not have as much responsibility or have to make the reads he did at FS which slowed his play down. So I believe losing Bell is addition by subtraction. Then the addition of Scott would improve our offensive line play by miles as would a healthy Jake Long. Add in what I believe will be a more successful offense just based on coaching alone and that improves the defense as well by not having to lean so heavily upon them.

    Yeah losing Brandon Marshall sucked and we didn't land a franchise QB in free agency (who really does though?) but overall I'm pretty happy with the moves we have made. Anticipating the draft.
     
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  3. Rdrunn004

    Rdrunn004 Active Member

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    I am not to familiar with the Tenn offensive line, which I believe that is where Scott comes from, but I do remember rumors (and I don't have a link it is just what I vaguely remember hearing during the season) that the reason CJ wasn't producing last year was because of the poor OL play.

    Does anyone know if my memory serves me correctly; and, if so, is Scott one of the culprits who played poorly on that OL?
     
  4. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Chris Johnson struggled because he is an undersized back who dances around rather than making one cut and going, and defenses finally realized that they can over power the little guy and impose their will on him.

    That said I can't speak for him as a run blocker but I know he was rated the best pass blocking guard in the league.
     
  5. Rdrunn004

    Rdrunn004 Active Member

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    I would agree with that statement as I think that most of the blame for CJ's poor performance this year falls on him, but I do believe that any RBs success hinders to a certain degree on the play of their OL. If you have good OL play then most NFL RBs should perform well.

    Glad to hear that Scott grades out well in pass blocking bc with the installation of the WCO in Miami that is very important. Thanks for the info and hopefully the staff can get him to sign.
     
  6. UCF FINatic

    UCF FINatic The Miami Dolphins select

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    I think him missing camp hurt him a lot but still he is not a huge dancer like you implied.

    Normally, if there is a hole he hits it, and hits it fast. His whole game is speed based though, if there aren't holes he can't get a bunch of "tough" yards.
     
  7. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    Doesn't really matter. He just about can't be a downgrade in run blocking and is certainly a pass blocking upgrade. Reggie averaged 5.0 YPC behind that piece of crap we threw out on the field so Scott will only help.
     
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  8. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I think he got more hesitant as the season moves on. Maybe because teams were stacking against the run but towards the end of the year he definitely wasn't the one cut runner he was the year before. I agree with what you said...if there is a hole he hits it. It is when the hole is small or he is trying to bounce outside that he tends to dance more. I think it has more to do with his stature than it does anything else. He knows he isn't running over anyone, when teams take good angles or plug his holes he gets in trouble.
     
  9. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Make it happen Irish!
     
  10. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Love to see this deal get done.
     
  11. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    It would be a good move, the OL would be less of a worry going into the draft.
     
  12. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    [​IMG]
     
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  13. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Agreed Travis. Jake Scott would be a key signing for us. I also gleaned from that Club thread that Ireland said we need tackle depth. He mentioned Jerry, Garner, and Cook. I wonder if he's penciled in Lydon Murtha for the starting RT spot? It would align nicely with some of the posturing that CK and others have made from Mike Sherman's "hidden talent" comment. I suppose Richie Incognito isn't the worst they could do at left guard. Again. But I've got a hunch they'll target someone like Adam Gettis of Iowa. Athletic, quick, former wrestler I believe - so he's probably got really good balance. And WR coach Ken O'Keefe probably is pretty keen on whether or not he'd be a nice fit since he came from the Iowa staff. Nice 4th round option there.
     
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  14. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    According to this report he's started every game since 2005 and has only allowed 5 sacks and 12 QB hits in the last 4 years. It also goes on to say CJ averaged 4.7 ypc when running to his side. Looks like a significant upgrade to me.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sns-rt-fbn-blogmt1sbnation2602676-20120302,0,92983.story
     
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  15. Killer Bees

    Killer Bees Bringin' the Ruckus

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    Please get this deal done.
     
  16. Rdrunn004

    Rdrunn004 Active Member

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    Great link smahtaz, that is exactly the type of analysis I was looking for when it comes to Scott.
     
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  17. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    this is me > < holding my breath...
     
  18. mracer

    mracer New Member

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    I'm skeptical about this guy. That article indicated he may have to compete with Rex Hadnot. The same Rex that was ok while he was here. I still want DeCastro on this team. Now that is a clear upgrade and our O-line will be banging!! I can't get off the DeCastro bandwagon ever since a fellow forum member shed some light on him.
     
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  19. Mk2

    Mk2 New Member

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    Scott will save FA if we can sign him.
     
  20. bakedmatt

    bakedmatt Well-Known Member

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    I want him to, but if you want to see this fanbase revolt, take a guard in the first round.
     
  21. jboogie

    jboogie The sky is NOT falling!

    Hope he likes the "vibe" here
     
  22. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    One out of two QB's do! Don't know how that works for guards though :lol:
     
  23. mracer

    mracer New Member

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    No way Irish picks him at #8 but if we can trade down to the teens and nab him....Highway robbery IMO.
     
  24. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I think there are way too many talents in this draft to not come away with a game changer unless you really reach.
     
  25. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    We drafted Jake Long with the number one overall pick and it seems no one's revolted over him. In fact, he's praised as one of our best players.
    We drafted Mike Pouncy in the first round and it seems no one's revolted over him, again priased as one of our better players.

    Think of building a car. You can have the biggest, most powerful engine under the hood of the car...all shiney, hot color, LED illuminated interior, bucket leather seats, Bose speakers, etc....but if you don't have something as basic as four tires on that car, that car's not going to go anywhere!!!!

    I've watched football for ALOT of years, longer than some here have been alive and the one common denominator every championship team has had over the years, from the 1965 Green Bay Packers to the 2011 New York Giants has been a SOLID offensive line.

    If you think I place too much emphasis on the offensive line, consider this. How many Super Bowls, or at least legitimate runs at the Super Bowl do you think the Detroit Lions would have had, if the Dallas Cowboys offensive line had been blocking for Barry Sanders rather than Emmitt Smith?

    You've GOT to build that foundation first. You can have all the Peyton Mannings, Drew Brees, Tom Bradys, John Elways or even Dan Marinos you want as quarterback, but if they have an offensive line that gives them ZERO time to drop back, set and deliver an accurate pass, you're going to be watching the playoffs every year rather than playing in them, and I don't think we'll find a single Dolphins fan here that would say from LT all the way down the line to RT, we had a SOLID offensive line last season.

    Bottomline, regardless of your fanbase, if you have a weakness on your team that you're unable to fill in free agency and there's a young stud in the draft that can fill it, regardless of position, you get what you need to make your football TEAM a better TEAM.
     
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  26. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Now that Matt Ryan is pretty well set in mediocrity, not as much.

    Before this year though it was every other thread about how we passed on another franchise QB for Jake Long.
     
  27. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    They claim to have their nucleus intact. It's time for Ireland to draft some difference makers - QB, WR, DE/OLB, DB. Ya know guys that actually impact the score.
     
  28. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    I still think we're fine at DB, especially with the addition of Marshall. VD is capable of making game changing plays as he's done so before.

    Definitely need another big time pass rusher.

    Bess/Hartline/Gates are very good role receivers, but we need an alpha.

    QB is an obvious need.
     
  29. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    yeah because it has gone sooooooo bad...
     
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  30. Jcouch1021

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    We could use a late round DB or if a stud drops to us. I think this year , WR, DE, S, ILB are our positions of need. I know I didn't put QB in because I think we aren't going to draft a QB high this year. Actually I'm very sure we aren't. We are going to go with Moore and Gerrrrrrard this year. Is we need to, next years draft will bring us a QB, for now we will have to wait
     
  31. bakedmatt

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    At #8 or #18. I still think it will be ridiculed.
     
  32. Jcouch1021

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    we arent gonna pump another first rounder into our O-line. look playmaker or DE
     
  33. bakedmatt

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    Agreed. You're wasting your time if you're trying to convince me that drafting DeCastro is good. I like DeCastro and even tease friends of mine that we should draft him. What's more, I don't think Ireland and Philbin should be influenced by the fanbase.

    I just forsee a lot of grumbling and *****ing all summer long if we take him.
     
  34. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Why is ILB a position of need?
     
  35. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Who is playing there?

    Dansby probably can, but I don't know if it has specifically been said that he will. Seems a lot of thought has him as a better fit and more natural as an OLB.

    I like Jake Scott, though I find it odd that so few are interested in him. Is there something we don't know to cause the lack of interest?

    Anything is better than spending another first round pick on a lineman though.
     
  36. slickj101

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    Burnett.

    Dansby would be a waste solely at OLB, imo.
     
  37. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    I like DeCastro, but if we could drop down to 11 or 12 and nab Luke (MLB solved), pick up a late 2nd and use that to get our current 2nd back into the first and grab Weeden...........that'd be more awesome. Downside to that is we'd be looking at 2 Wr's in the 3rd and praying for one of them to step up large. Not sure I'd like that part.
     
  38. Mk2

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    Well based on the fact the Dolphins cut their leading tackler in Bell and their top skill position player was traded in Marshall and completley whiffed on Manning and Flynn but signed Garrard and signed some role players after Ross told everyone he was focused on making moves this year...yeah it pretty much has sucked donkey balls. but hey, that's just me....
     
  39. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    That leading tackler was mediocre and getting old, while being overpaid. But throw in "leading tackler" as if that trumps all his other regressions.

    Now to Marshall, while I didn't agree with it at first, they obviously had enough of him (ex. getting into trouble AGAIN), so they got what they could get.

    Whiffed on Manning and Flynn? Manning never showed any signs of wanting to play for the Dolphins and if Miami really wanted Matt Flynn, he would be a Dolphin right now (Philbin/Flynn Green Bay connection, hello?)

    And Garrard is here on a small deal to be the back up QB. Oh the horror.
     
  40. ToddsPhins

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    So what you're saying is you're a fan of paying big money to 34 year strong safeties who are becoming a liability in coverage despite it being a passing league, and you don't know if this is the season when he completely hits the wall?

    Personally, if cutting Bell results in Jake Scott, I'll be more than happy about it.
     
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