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    Default Fire Ireland.

    I’ve been reading thread after thread that many Dolphins fans are fed up with Jeff Ireland and want him gone today.

    Who are the candidates to replace him?


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    ''Thats a trick question''

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    well the guy from the colts comes to mind he did well in indy.

    i would not have a proble with letting philbin pick the playersand just let ireland work the numbers

    then there is Jim Jensen or NICK B. i cant spell his last name but even he has more comon sense.

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    ''Thats a farking trick question''
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquafin View Post
    well the guy from the colts comes to mind he did well in indy.

    i would not have a proble with letting philbin pick the playersand just let ireland work the numbers

    then there is Jim Jensen or NICK B. i cant spell his last name but even he has more comon sense.
    I imagine Philbin already has a lot of say.
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    Well, since a down yr this means rebuilding, with all of the players we have primed to hit FA, I have to say I'm Ireland's biggest fan so to speak.

    I cannot imagine 8 months of this negativity.

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    Wouldn't make any sense at all to fire Ireland now. As I said before, that would be like firing your accountant on April 14th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonstBlitz View Post
    Wouldn't make any sense at all to fire Ireland now. As I said before, that would be like firing your accountant on April 14th.
    I disagree...it would probably go a long way to satisfy a disgruntled fan base. May put a few more butts in the seats this year. I have heard good things about Nat Moore. Ireland has not shown anything special in the draft. Thought he showed impatience by trading picks to move up to take Thomas last year. Does anyone think FA players unsigned this year will only consider Miami if Ireland is GM? Probably just the opposite.

    I look at the state of the team right now...gone is our leading WR and tackler from last year. Our QB situation in which Ireland is on record as being happy with consists of two backup worthy QB under one year contracts. Our best offensive players (Long, Bush) are on the last year of their contract along with our best defensive player (Wake)...so what would be missing by letting Ireland go right now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquafin View Post
    well the guy from the colts comes to mind he did well in indy.

    i would not have a proble with letting philbin pick the playersand just let ireland work the numbers

    then there is Jim Jensen or NICK B. i cant spell his last name but even he has more comon sense.
    really ?
    My job right now is to push him," said Lazor, who was Nick Foles' QBs coach last year. "Iíve got to make it very hard for him out here on the practice field. I heard a rumor that some people reported that weíve made it hard for him on the field. Thatís on purpose. Thatís how you build a quarterback, and heís coming."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamC13 View Post
    I disagree...it would probably go a long way to satisfy a disgruntled fan base. May put a few more butts in the seats this year. I have heard good things about Nat Moore. Ireland has not shown anything special in the draft. Thought he showed impatience by trading picks to move up to take Thomas last year.

    I look at the state of the team right now...gone is our leading WR and tackler from last year. Our QB situation in which Ireland is on record as being happy with consists of two backup worthy QB under one year contracts. Our best offensive players (Long, Bush) are on the last year of their contract along with our best defensive player (Wake)...so what would be missing by letting Ireland go right now?
    Too funny. What leads you to believe Nat Moore is up to speed in regard to the upcoming draft.

    Don't get me wrong. I think Ireland is a pompus azz.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamC13 View Post
    I disagree...it would probably go a long way to satisfy a disgruntled fan base. May put a few more butts in the seats this year. I have heard good things about Nat Moore. Ireland has not shown anything special in the draft. Thought he showed impatience by trading picks to move up to take Thomas last year. Does anyone think FA players unsigned this year will only consider Miami if Ireland is GM? Probably just the opposite.

    I look at the state of the team right now...gone is our leading WR and tackler from last year. Our QB situation in which Ireland is on record as being happy with consists of two backup worthy QB under one year contracts. Our best offensive players (Long, Bush) are on the last year of their contract along with our best defensive player (Wake)...so what would be missing by letting Ireland go right now?
    You don't have to sell me on Ireland's incompetence. But of all the things I criticize him for, he's not terrible in the draft except for the small fact that he places no importance on the QB position. But I'd much rather let the new GM pick this team's QB anyway. Ireland has been preparing for this draft for a long time. To bring someone else in to conduct the draft would just make an already terrible offseason even worse. In my humble opinion, the best time to fire Ireland would be as soon as we are mathematically eliminated from a winning season.

    To me Ireland has this draft to make a pitch to Ross that he deserves to keep his job. If I'm Steven Ross nothing short of an amazing draft that leads to a winning season is going to make me not give this guy the boot. But not before the draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smahtaz View Post
    I’ve been reading thread after thread that many Dolphins fans are fed up with Jeff Ireland and want him gone today.

    Who are the candidates to replace him?






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    Quote Originally Posted by smahtaz View Post
    Too funny. What leads you to believe Nat Moore is up to speed in regard to the upcoming draft.

    Don't get me wrong. I think Ireland is a pompus azz.
    Other than hearing his name mentioned, nothing. Can't be worse than Ireland at this point. If Moore is not competent he can fill the role of straw man until Ross hires someone who hopefully will be competent. IMO it is best to let Philbin and coaching staff make the calls on this draft regardless of whether Ireland stays or not. They know the type of players they are looking for their system. I certainly trust their decision-making more than Ireland's at this point. Obviously, Miami is going to need to draft heavily on offense.

    Taking a look at the state of the team with the FA's at the end of this season:

    Jake Long
    Reggie Bush
    Cameron Wake
    Randy Starks
    Anthony Fasano
    Art Hicks
    Tony McDaniel
    Matt Moore
    David Garrard
    Pat Devlin
    Sean Smith
    Brian Hartline
    Nate Garner
    Brandon Fields
    Jason Trusnik
    Lydon Murtha
    Tyrone Culver
    Roberto Wallace
    Marlon Moore
    Steve Slaton

    Obviously, quite a few of these players are easily replaced but in looking at Long, Wake, Starks, Smith, Fasano, Bush, Moore/Garrard, Hicks, Murtha, Garner, Hartline, Fields...That is about half of the starters on the Dolphins are slated to become FAs next off season. Throw in Langford, Marshall, Bell, Carey, Columbo and JT (six starters from last year gone) and tell me Miami isn't going through a rebuilding phase. Ireland already had his chance to rebuild the team. Time to give someone else a chance.

    Not only has Ireland created more holes this off season than he has filled he has not signed extension to core players (Long, Bush, Wake, Starks, Smith, Fasano, Fields, Hartline). Hard to figure how Ireland actually benefits the Dolphins in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fin Fan In Cali View Post
    I had read about DeCosta, he certianly has a proven mentor.


    Any thoughts on Russ Ball and John Dorsey?

    IIRC Didn't Brian Gaine get a GM interview somewhere this offseason?


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    I have been as negative as anyone on here in regards to Ireland as the teams GM. Yet I agree with those who question firing Ireland now, just a few weeks from the NFL draft. I just don't see anyone available at this time who could just come in and conduct the draft for the Dolphins at the last minute. Ross decided to go with Ireland as the GM for the 2012 season and whether some of us like it or not, Ireland is the man who needs to be making the decisions on draft day, since he has been given that responsible by Ross.

    If Ireland fails in the draft and the Dolphins once again finish below 500 next season, there will be plenty of time for us to demand Ross fire him. For now we have to hope that Ireland does an excellent job in this years draft because, I think there are far more holes to fill on this team before they are truly competitive in the AFC.

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    People criticize the bad timing of the Y. Bell release....but turn around and want Ireland gone on the eve of the Draft. I tell ya boy.....we're scraping the bottom of the barrel with this fanbase thing.
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