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    Ok. I thought I would put my two cents into this qb talk. I personally would take Matt Moore to stay as the starter and get a qb in the draft. To be honest with you guys, I don't know much about Matt Flynn to comment on him coming to Miami. I have seen enough with Moore that encourages me to believe that with an offseason and some good coaching that he could be even better at quarterback. At the same time, whomever Miami drafts at qb can learn the ropes until he is ready to play.
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    Do you like one of the draft QBs or are you espousing more of a general philosophy?


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    Personally I like RG3 if that is what you are asking. But I don't who would be the best in my opinion.
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    I'm not as high on RG3 b/c so much of what he'll do in the NFL is unknown. My current priority list is:

    1. Luck
    2. Tannehill
    3. Flynn
    4. Weedon

    After that there's a line where I'd be somewhat disappointed with anybody else. I'd list RG3 5th, but I'd hate to spend what it would take to trade up for him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rafael View Post
    I'm not as high on RG3 b/c so much of what he'll do in the NFL is unknown. My current priority list is:

    1. Luck
    2. Tannehill
    3. Flynn
    4. Weedon

    After that there's a line where I'd be somewhat disappointed with anybody else. I'd list RG3 5th, but I'd hate to spend what it would take to trade up for him.
    I can't even put Luck on my list. I can't be optimistic enough to envision the scenario where we get him. but, Ireland should still try.
    but my hopeful starters:

    1. Flynn
    1b. Tannehill
    3. Moore
    4. Weeden
    far distant #5. RGIII
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    1. luck (kings ransom!)
    1a. Flynn
    2. Weeden
    3. Osweiler
    4.Testeverde
    5.Bart Starr

    I do not trust RG3, my own opinion.. factualy not backed up, he does have fantastic stats

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    1) RG3
    2) Kellen Moore- in the fourth or fifth round.

    Luck would obviously be my first choice but I see no chance of the Dolphins trading up with the Colts for their first round selection. I will leave it up to Philbin as to whether or not he thinks Flynn is a franchise type QB.

    I don't think Tannehill or Weeden, are worth first round picks and I hope the Dolphins pass on both these QB's in the first round. If they want to take a chance on Tannehill in the third round and he is still on the board, I could live with that. I just don't think either Tannehill or Weeden will ever be more then quality backups in the NFL.

    If they are going to draft a QB and it isn't RG3, I think that taking Kellen Moore in the middle rounds would be a better selections than Tannehill or Weeden in the upper rounds of the draft. He could back up Matt Moore next year while he learns the offense.

    My hope is that they trade up for RG3 and if they don't, they will make a blockbuster trade before the 2013 draft in an effort to get Matt Barkley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohio Fanatic View Post
    I can't even put Luck on my list. I can't be optimistic enough to envision the scenario where we get him. but, Ireland should still try.
    but my hopeful starters:

    1. Flynn
    1b. Tannehill
    3. Moore
    4. Weeden
    far distant #5. RGIII
    You just have to realize what the price is going to be and are you willing to pay it. I am, without a doubt, willing to throw as much as it takes at the Colts to get him.

    I've been saying this for a while now and I'll say it again. I like the prospect of drafting Ryan Tannehill at pick 8/9 because it affords us one more look at Matt Moore. Of course, I think Tannehill is a tremendous prospect in his own right, but it gives us a sense of double dipping. Maybe it turns into a Brees/Rivers situation and then we're just damn lucky. You bring in Flynn, you'll never know what you might've had in Matt Moore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jw3102 View Post
    1) RG3
    2) Kellen Moore- in the fourth or fifth round.
    Kellen Moore will never start in the NFL unless somebody is injured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aqua4Ever04 View Post
    You just have to realize what the price is going to be and are you willing to pay it. I am, without a doubt, willing to throw as much as it takes at the Colts to get him.

    I've been saying this for a while now and I'll say it again. I like the prospect of drafting Ryan Tannehill at pick 8/9 because it affords us one more look at Matt Moore. Of course, I think Tannehill is a tremendous prospect in his own right, but it gives us a sense of double dipping. Maybe it turns into a Brees/Rivers situation and then we're just damn lucky. You bring in Flynn, you'll never know what you might've had in Matt Moore.
    yes, but there's a difference between a very high price for trading with Indy (i.e. 2 1sts and 1 or 2 2nds) and a more ludicrous price it might take if they really have their hearts set on Luck as the future of their franchise. Luck doesn't do us any good if we can't eventually put good young talent around him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohio Fanatic View Post
    I can't even put Luck on my list. I can't be optimistic enough to envision the scenario where we get him. but, Ireland should still try.
    but my hopeful starters:

    1. Flynn
    1b. Tannehill
    3. Moore
    4. Weeden
    far distant #5. RGIII
    I would never claim that Luck is a likely possibility, but I put him on the list in recognition of the fact that I would be willing to pay a ton to get him and despite the high price, he's still my top choice. I don't put Moore on the list b/c he's on the team. We don't have to go get him. I imagine he would be the starter to begin the year if Tannehill was the guy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rafael View Post
    I'm not as high on RG3 b/c so much of what he'll do in the NFL is unknown. My current priority list is:

    1. Luck
    2. Tannehill
    3. Flynn
    4. Weedon

    After that there's a line where I'd be somewhat disappointed with anybody else. I'd list RG3 5th, but I'd hate to spend what it would take to trade up for him.
    That is a good list. I am curious to see how Tannehill pans out. Not to mention Osweiller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jw3102 View Post
    1) RG3
    2) Kellen Moore- in the fourth or fifth round.

    Luck would obviously be my first choice but I see no chance of the Dolphins trading up with the Colts for their first round selection. I will leave it up to Philbin as to whether or not he thinks Flynn is a franchise type QB.

    I don't think Tannehill or Weeden, are worth first round picks and I hope the Dolphins pass on both these QB's in the first round. If they want to take a chance on Tannehill in the third round and he is still on the board, I could live with that. I just don't think either Tannehill or Weeden will ever be more then quality backups in the NFL.

    If they are going to draft a QB and it isn't RG3, I think that taking Kellen Moore in the middle rounds would be a better selections than Tannehill or Weeden in the upper rounds of the draft. He could back up Matt Moore next year while he learns the offense.

    My hope is that they trade up for RG3 and if they don't, they will make a blockbuster trade before the 2013 draft in an effort to get Matt Barkley.
    I wouldn't mind getting Kellen Moore with a late round pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rafael View Post
    I would never claim that Luck is a likely possibility, but I put him on the list in recognition of the fact that I would be willing to pay a ton to get him and despite the high price, he's still my top choice. I don't put Moore on the list b/c he's on the team. We don't have to go get him. I imagine he would be the starter to begin the year if Tannehill was the guy.
    There is still that glimmer i'am holding on to while Irsay is in his public love affair with resigning Manning...

    The three things I look at most when evaluating a Qb's is ..

    1) How the player handles pressure, whether he looks uncomfortable, and how fast he reacts to it..I realize that is your thing as well....the evaluation stops there if I see nervousness ( Landry Jones)

    2) Arm talent and all that it encompasses. Strength,accuracy and touch.

    3) Footwork and Qb athleticism.

    4) Leadership and presence..

    So my list at this point is

    1) Luck., I can't let it go until its a reality, and you Raf have something to do with that obsession, keeping my hopes up and sh&&, lol

    2) RG...I think he demonstrates all the things I just mentioned, I think he's worth the risk..

    3) Tannehill or Weeden, I believe Brandon has more arm talent then them all..and Tannehill has all the tools and potential for the list to come to fruition.

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    1. Luck
    2. Manning
    3. RG3
    4. Weeden
    5. Flynn
    6. Tannenhill
    7. Foles
    8. Osweiler
    9. Cousins
    10. Corp
    11. Orton
    12. Campbell
    13. Re-sign Henne
    14. Harnish
    15. Lindley
    16. Wilson
    17. Johson
    18. Dixon
    19. Coleman
    20. Lee

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    Screw it, let's cover all of our bases.

    Keep Moore, bring in Flynn, AND draft Tannehill. We're bound to hit on one of 'em
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    Quote Originally Posted by texasPHINSfan View Post
    Screw it, let's cover all of our bases.

    Keep Moore, bring in Flynn, AND draft Tannehill. We're bound to hit on one of 'em
    That's interesting. I never thought of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhinsRDbest View Post
    1. Luck
    2. Manning
    3. RG3
    4. Weeden
    5. Flynn
    6. Tannenhill
    7. Foles
    8. Osweiler
    9. Cousins
    10. Corp
    11. Orton
    12. Campbell
    13. Re-sign Henne
    14. Harnish
    15. Lindley
    16. Wilson
    17. Johson
    18. Dixon
    19. Coleman
    20. Lee
    My God! What a list!! Someone might come out that one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by texasPHINSfan View Post
    Screw it, let's cover all of our bases.

    Keep Moore, bring in Flynn, AND draft Tannehill. We're bound to hit on one of 'em
    If they bring in Flynn, I can't picture Ireland also drafting a QB in the first round. However; if Peyton is the guy they bring in, they almost have to still draft a QB because of both Peyton's age and risk. That's why I believe bringing in Peyton, drafting Tannehill and keeping Moore is the best strategy. Not sure how doable it is, but looks good on paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djphinfan View Post
    There is still that glimmer i'am holding on to while Irsay is in his public love affair with resigning Manning...

    The three things I look at most when evaluating a Qb's is ..

    1) How the player handles pressure, whether he looks uncomfortable, and how fast he reacts to it..I realize that is your thing as well....the evaluation stops there if I see nervousness ( Landry Jones)

    2) Arm talent and all that it encompasses. Strength,accuracy and touch.

    3) Footwork and Qb athleticism.

    4) Leadership and presence..

    So my list at this point is

    1) Luck., I can't let it go until its a reality, and you Raf have something to do with that obsession, keeping my hopes up and sh&&, lol

    2) RG...I think he demonstrates all the things I just mentioned, I think he's worth the risk..

    3) Tannehill or Weeden, I believe Brandon has more arm talent then them all..and Tannehill has all the tools and potential for the list to come to fruition.
    That is a good list. I see we share the same desire when it comes to evaluating quarterbacks. I am waiting to see who Miami drafts when this combine pans out. Can't wait!!
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