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****The Official Trade Discussion Thread****

Discussion in 'Trades' started by Boik14, Jan 31, 2012.

  1. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Trade discussion goes here. Dont like a deal? Want to compliment someone on a deal....etc.

    EDIT: No trades have not started yet. Just trying to do the little things to help out GIK since he and Saint Greg have their hands full running the ship.
     
  2. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    looking forward to expressing my opinion about trades without fear of political persecution.
     
  3. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    Why? Are you against trading a Democrat for two Republicans?
     
  4. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    [​IMG]
     
  5. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    A 2nd round pick for a dude with a broken neck?
     
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  6. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    this. GIK pulls off the first major bender of the season.
     
  7. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    This could be good for JAX or really bad for JAX.
     
  8. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    At least Carson Palmer doesn't have a broken freakin' neck. :D

    (He just plays like it)
     
  9. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    He's terrible and healthy at that. lol.
     
  10. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    Not as terrible as Christian Ponder :shifty:
     
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  11. UCF FINatic

    UCF FINatic The Miami Dolphins select

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    Personally, I like it for Jacksonville. The asking price for Manning was only going to go up based on each press release about his neck healing. Which I think it will, I don't think I'd ever bet against Manning. Plus if the Dolphins do sign Manning everyone will go nuts over him lol
     
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  12. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Surround some talent around Manning in Jacksonville (another WR or two) and if he is healthy... you have to consider them to be a playoff contender. Not to mention they have a raw quarterback in Blaine Gabbert who could use the extra year or two to develop behind Manning.
     
  13. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Getting a second round pick for him is much different then signing him as a FA with only monetary compensation. Its a good move for you.
     
  14. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Of course.. but if we included roster bonuses in our team salaries then I would have been releasing him. :lol:
     
  15. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    I voted for roster bonuses :shifty:
     
  16. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Yeah because that would have been possible to compile... :pity:
     
  17. AshyLarry

    AshyLarry New Member

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    Also, Manning with an elite RB and a good defense. He will have a chip on his shoulder as well and will play Indy twice a year. The motivation is there and he doesn't need to throw it 40 times a game. Watch out!
     
  18. JMHPhin

    JMHPhin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    you get my pm?
     
  19. Bdogtitan11

    Bdogtitan11 New Member

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    This was my thinking. Jacksonville isn't far off from being a playoff contender. Very good defense, special teams and a great RB. Immediate at QB was needed and the Jags got that with Manning. This move also allows Gabbert to develop behind on the best of all time and not learn any more bad habits. This isn't just a move that has the potential to help the next two seasons, but for the next 12.

    Obviously there's a risk in taking a guy that missed last year with a neck injury, but for an early second (a pick that has a high fail rate), I thought it was worth the risk.

    The Colts get a good deal too, getting a pick to the mix and a solid slot WR. I think it's a win-win for both sides.
     
  20. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    I went to read that study, saw this, [​IMG] and forgot about the study.
     
  21. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Im bored...who wants to wheel and deal? :shifty:
     
  22. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    What if he retires?
     
  23. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    So you were studying anatomy? :yes:
     
  24. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    I'll trade her to you for DMac.
     
  25. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    You really want DMac O_O
     
  26. Bdogtitan11

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    Steal of the century.
     
  27. Bdogtitan11

    Bdogtitan11 New Member

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    Peyton? If he retires then it's back to the drawing board, but I don't think that's the case. He feels like he isn't done yet, so that's what I have to go off of. His doctors felt the same.

    Worst case scenario is he retire and I lose a second round pick. Not ideal but not the end of the world either.
     
  28. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    Fortunately she was a Free Agent, and the Raiders have signed her:

    [​IMG]
     
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  29. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    Well debatable, depending on your need at the time of draft because there have been some excellent second rounders. Matt Light, Osi Umenyiora, Maurice Jones-Drew, Devin Hester. If you want to compare your pick #38 then we'd be looking at Flozell Adams, Boomer Esiason, Mike Singletary.
     
  30. Bdogtitan11

    Bdogtitan11 New Member

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    Valid point and it certainly is debatable. No. 38 overall pick since 2000 has had a track record of producing very solid, albeit not spectacular, starters.

    2000- Pitt, OL Marvel Smith
    2001- Chicago Bears, RB Anthony Thomas
    2002 - Minn, LB, Raonall Smith
    2003 - Dallas, OL, Al Johnson
    2004 - Pitt, CB, Ricardo Colclough
    2005 - Oakland, CB, Stanford Routt
    2006 - Oakland, LB, Thomas Howard
    2007 - Oakland, TE, Zach Miller
    2008 - Seattle, TE, John Carlson
    2009 - Cinn, LB, Re Maualuga
    2010 - Cleveland, S, T.J. Ward

    So we're talking depth and consistency. Not ideal to lose that, but it's worth the gamble to me.
     
  31. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    It is Peyton Manning, but when I was negotiating I used the Bret Favre trade to the Jets as a base, HOF QB leaving a team he established with questions and that was a conditional pick that turned out to be a 3rd rounder.

    Now Favre from the Falcons to the Packers was a second rounder, but that was a young and raw Favre.

    I wouldn't have gone any higher than a third myself with all the questions to be asked. It worked out for the Packers cause I think they flipped that 3rd with other pieces for #26, which got them Clay Matthews.
     
  32. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    I do.
     
  33. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    Me too.
     
  34. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    If there's any interest in Steve Hutchinson or Kevin Williams, please PM me.
     
  35. SICK

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    Anyone interested in Jason avant 1.5 m

    PM me
     
  36. Bdogtitan11

    Bdogtitan11 New Member

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    We'll see, it's definitely a calculated risk, but I feel pretty good about it.
     
  37. JMHPhin

    JMHPhin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    i want to trade
     
  38. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    I am here and willing to wheel and deal
    PM me or hit me up on AIM.....
     
  39. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Well Holla @ your boy :lol:
     
  40. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Ditto!
     

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