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    Question When will they stop fixing these games?

    The interference penalty on the Revis ("pick 6") goes totally unnoticed. Even Gruden said there were 5 flags they could have thrown, they threw nothing.

    Brandon Marshall goes out of bounds (against his momentum) on his way to the endzone for no reason. He must have tripped on an invisible man.

    After his mysterious jump out of bounds and pick 6, Marshall is seen laughing and joking on the sideline

    At the end of the game a Dolphins coach goes over to Revis and congratulates him like they are best friends

    Could this get anymore obvious?


    The reason they can keep fixing games like this is because everyone refuses to believe it can happen. Doesn't it strike anyone odd that the same corporate sponsors that sponsor the teams own the casinos and run the sports books that give the odds and the point spreads? Someone must be making a ton of money betting on points per quarter.

    I just love it when people say "you can't fix football there are too many people involved" WRONG. The players only run the plays they are told to run, the coaches feed the plays. If the coach knows they can run the ball, they can just keep calling running plays and the players will never know.

    The possibility for corruption is wide and based on what I saw on Monday night it is becoming more and more obvious. If you want corruption as a result you a need total control and a ton of cash and the NFL has both. My god are we getting naive in this country or what?

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    Yeah....ummmm...ok


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    Oh please!

    And it was Brian Cox who was talking to Revis, Cox was a coach on the Jets Revis's first year.

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    And Chad Henne's season ending shoulder injury is fixed too? I suppose back in the 80's, when Theisman has his leg broken in half, that was planned? And Marino -one of, if not the greatest, QBs of all time, was ushered out with a fixed 62-7 shellacking. Get real dude. Can we just delete this thread?


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    It was a bad call but bad calls happen to EVERY team. Game was not fixed we just suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shulaboy View Post
    The interference penalty on the Revis ("pick 6") goes totally unnoticed. Even Gruden said there were 5 flags they could have thrown, they threw nothing.

    Brandon Marshall goes out of bounds (against his momentum) on his way to the endzone for no reason. He must have tripped on an invisible man.

    After his mysterious jump out of bounds and pick 6, Marshall is seen laughing and joking on the sideline

    At the end of the game a Dolphins coach goes over to Revis and congratulates him like they are best friends

    Could this get anymore obvious?


    The reason they can keep fixing games like this is because everyone refuses to believe it can happen. Doesn't it strike anyone odd that the same corporate sponsors that sponsor the teams own the casinos and run the sports books that give the odds and the point spreads? Someone must be making a ton of money betting on points per quarter.

    I just love it when people say "you can't fix football there are too many people involved" WRONG. The players only run the plays they are told to run, the coaches feed the plays. If the coach knows they can run the ball, they can just keep calling running plays and the players will never know.

    The possibility for corruption is wide and based on what I saw on Monday night it is becoming more and more obvious. If you want corruption as a result you a need total control and a ton of cash and the NFL has both. My god are we getting naive in this country or what?
    I hate to go against the grain here guys but some things in that game (and a few others) have looked awfully suspicious. Not every play and not every move but it wouldn't surprise me if some, not all, but some of these games are fiddled with. I cannot say for sure but the possibility is there. Hey if I had the juice to fix plays and make a ton of cash I'd probably do it too.

    By the way, when was the last time you ever heard of an NFL official ever losing his job over bad calls? They certainly must be doing what the NFL has instructed them to do. Hell I even watched a game where the ref screwed up the coin toss and let the wrong team kick off. His name is Phil Luckett and she's still an NFL ref. Do you have any idea how much money in Vegas is bet on the coin toss?

    Anything's possible guys, anything.



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    This would explain the consistent "parity" in the NFL today.

    Superbowl hosted in Indianapolis, and Peyton Manning has a "neck injury"? Is it just me or is the NFL trying to keep from having a home superbowl?

    Brandon Marshall running out of bounds after a catch where he probably scores otherwise?

    Tony Sparano sits on the ball with about a minute to go in the half?

    A player the caliber of Matt Moore throws it into the hands of Revis for a "pick six"?

    Something just doesn't add up here, folks...

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    Grudden went on about that play and there was contact and a jersey pull but there was alot of pushing off and grabbing by both of them all night.I can't say that's why BM fell down tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lmeister3 View Post
    This would explain the consistent "parity" in the NFL today.

    Superbowl hosted in Indianapolis, and Peyton Manning has a "neck injury"? Is it just me or is the NFL trying to keep from having a home superbowl?

    Brandon Marshall running out of bounds after a catch where he probably scores otherwise?

    Tony Sparano sits on the ball with about a minute to go in the half?

    A player the caliber of Matt Moore throws it into the hands of Revis for a "pick six"?

    Something just doesn't add up here, folks...
    There are a literal ton of examples that I /we could give and anything is possible. That spygate investigation was joke too. Boy they brushed that under the rug quickly and without investigating the four Superbowls that they won using it. The 1919 White Sox scandal in Chicago was over another team catching them cheating, they call it the "black sox scandal". Many people still believe that in their 2nd fight Ali never hit Liston hard enough to knock him out, in fact they still call it the "phantom punch.". In the movie Raging Bull Jake Lamotta admitted that he had to get in bed with the mob to get his title shot.

    The NFL is nothing more than the Billionaires Boys Club and just having enough money to buy a team doesn't automatically mean you can get it. You have to be "APPROVED". I always thought that was a little odd. If you would have told our great grand parents that we would be putting our flag on the moon they would have said it was impossible, and to their great grandparents going to the bathroom inside was impossible. The world is full of "IMPOSSIBLE" things that naive and ignorant people don't believe. Anything, and I do mean anything is possible. There is no tooth fairy gang, and the world can be a big connected scarey place.

    I think a good rule of thumb is this: if there a point spread on it - it's probably fixed.



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    That wasn't even a flag against Revis. Marshall was clearly stumbling down and Revis played the ball the entire time. Result = Pick 6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cobrajet View Post
    There are a literal ton of examples that I /we could give and anything is possible. That spygate investigation was joke too. Boy they brushed that under the rug quickly and without investigating the four Superbowls that they won using it.
    They only won 3. It's very hard to prove it retroactively. They also lost a first round pick as a result. Hell, the US Congress even had hearings.

    The 1919 White Sox scandal in Chicago was over another team catching them cheating, they call it the "black sox scandal". Many people still believe that in their 2nd fight Ali never hit Liston hard enough to knock him out, in fact they still call it the "phantom punch.". In the movie Raging Bull Jake Lamotta admitted that he had to get in bed with the mob to get his title shot.
    Hey guys, I really don't have much proof, so I'll talk about one instance everyone is too young to remember, another instance that not many care about, and something that's completely irrelevant, all in COMPLETELY different sports. You believe the NFL is fixed now right?

    The NFL is nothing more than the Billionaires Boys Club and just having enough money to buy a team doesn't automatically mean you can get it. You have to be "APPROVED". I always thought that was a little odd.
    If Hugo Chavez wanted to buy a team, would you let him? If a businessman known for crooked practices and embezzling wanted to buy a team, would you let him? Everyone with money shouldn't own an NFL team. Besides, not all NFL owners are billionaires. Paul Allen is the wealthiest with $13+ billion while Ross is #2. But, Rooney, the owner of the Steelers, is only worth $150 million. Some teams get purchased by groups of investors. Just the other day, Rush Limbaugh was trying to buy the Rams with a group of people.

    If you would have told our great grand parents that we would be putting our flag on the moon they would have said it was impossible, and to their great grandparents going to the bathroom inside was impossible. The world is full of "IMPOSSIBLE" things that naive and ignorant people don't believe. Anything, and I do mean anything is possible. There is no tooth fairy gang, and the world can be a big connected scarey place.
    Lol

    I think a good rule of thumb is this: if there a point spread on it - it's probably fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cobrajet View Post
    By the way, when was the last time you ever heard of an NFL official ever losing his job over bad calls?
    1 bad call versus the 99.9% of right calls they make? I suppose Jim Joyce should have been fired for costing the Perfect Game. By their very nature, bad calls are magnified so it always seems like a conspiracy. The human error aspect makes certain a bad call or two will be made. But, the vast majority of calls are correct.

    They certainly must be doing what the NFL has instructed them to do. Hell I even watched a game where the ref screwed up the coin toss and let the wrong team kick off. His name is Phil Luckett and she's still an NFL ref. Do you have any idea how much money in Vegas is bet on the coin toss?
    Luckett didn't mess up the toss. Bettis said Head-Tails and Luckett by rule has to go with the first one.

    Anything's possible guys, anything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingMotion View Post
    1 bad call versus the 99.9% of right calls they make? I suppose Jim Joyce should have been fired for costing the Perfect Game. By their very nature, bad calls are magnified so it always seems like a conspiracy. The human error aspect makes certain a bad call or two will be made. But, the vast majority of calls are correct.



    Luckett didn't mess up the toss. Bettis said Head-Tails and Luckett by rule has to go with the first one.

    Anything's possible guys, anything.


    No you guys are right it's impossible. Just keep burying your heads deeper and deeper in the sand.

    "Bubba Smith, who played for the Colts in the game, came out and publicly stated that Super Bowl III was "set up" for the Jets to win."
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/389686-eight-sports-conspiracies-that-prove-professional-sports-are-fixed/page/2

    "For instance, Bubba Smith, a defensive lineman for the Baltimore Colts, had told Playboy that the 1969 Super Bowl, featuring the heroics of New York Jets' quarterback
    Joe Namath, had been fixed; that Carroll Rosenbloom, then the owner of the Colts, had bet against his own team."
    http://www.moldea.com/Five-3.html

    Bubba Smith Always Alleged ’69 Super Bowl Was Fixed


    http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/192453/20110804/bubba-smith-colts-jets-super-bowl-fixed-namath-morall-shula.htm


    " several years ago, I received a copy of an FBI-302 report, which detailed the FBI's investigation of NFL referees and game officials. The report stated that "two or three referees" had been paid $100,000 by a New York Mafia figure for their participation in each of eight allegedly fixed games--which I list on page 308 of Interference. The referees' alleged job was to ensure that the unnamed mob figure covered the spread and, thus, won his bets. The referees' names were not mentioned in the FBI report."

    http://www.moldea.com/gamefixing.html

    http://www.moldea.com/NFLSecurity.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrelle Revis View Post
    That wasn't even a flag against Revis. Marshall was clearly stumbling down and Revis played the ball the entire time. Result = Pick 6.







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    Quote Originally Posted by cobrajet View Post
    No you guys are right it's impossible. Just keep burying your heads deeper and deeper in the sand.

    "Bubba Smith, who played for the Colts in the game, came out and publicly stated that Super Bowl III was "set up" for the Jets to win."
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/389686-eight-sports-conspiracies-that-prove-professional-sports-are-fixed/page/2

    "For instance, Bubba Smith, a defensive lineman for the Baltimore Colts, had told Playboy that the 1969 Super Bowl, featuring the heroics of New York Jets' quarterback
    Joe Namath, had been fixed; that Carroll Rosenbloom, then the owner of the Colts, had bet against his own team."
    http://www.moldea.com/Five-3.html

    Bubba Smith Always Alleged ’69 Super Bowl Was Fixed


    http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/192453/20110804/bubba-smith-colts-jets-super-bowl-fixed-namath-morall-shula.htm


    " several years ago, I received a copy of an FBI-302 report, which detailed the FBI's investigation of NFL referees and game officials. The report stated that "two or three referees" had been paid $100,000 by a New York Mafia figure for their participation in each of eight allegedly fixed games--which I list on page 308 of Interference. The referees' alleged job was to ensure that the unnamed mob figure covered the spread and, thus, won his bets. The referees' names were not mentioned in the FBI report."

    http://www.moldea.com/gamefixing.html

    http://www.moldea.com/NFLSecurity.html

    Worst thread ever??
    Most of these guys are immature and have no idea how the world is run. There are so many examples of organized crime screwing with everything from boxing matches to super bowls it's dizzying. It's unsettling for people to admit that it's even possible. 95% of people are so closed minded that they could have a full confession and still wouldn't believe it. Behind the scenes of big money everything from Enron, to Worldcom to fixing NFL games is possible and happens on a daily basis. If you build a better mouse trap you'll get a smarter mouse. They are just getting better at hiding it.

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    Isn't it considered a general rule with conspiracies that the more people know about it, the less of a chance it stands to remain a secret? I mean think of the amount of people that have to be in on this......it is truly staggering.

    Don't get me wrong, I think it is possible, but logistically highly unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingMotion View Post
    1 bad call versus the 99.9% of right calls they make? I suppose Jim Joyce should have been fired for costing the Perfect Game. By their very nature, bad calls are magnified so it always seems like a conspiracy. The human error aspect makes certain a bad call or two will be made. But, the vast majority of calls are correct.



    Luckett didn't mess up the toss. Bettis said Head-Tails and Luckett by rule has to go with the first one.



    So - let me get this straight. You don't think that there are any individuals with enough power and influence in the mob to fix a game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laces Out View Post
    Isn't it considered a general rule with conspiracies that the more people know about it, the less of a chance it stands to remain a secret? I mean think of the amount of people that have to be in on this......it is truly staggering.

    Don't get me wrong, I think it is possible, but logistically highly unlikely.
    Well at least you think its possible, and no one knows for sure. I think if the money was right to pay the right people off they would do it. If it's that or go pump gas somewhere I think a player, coach, or ref would really consider it. I don't think it's like WWF were everything is orchestrated, but I think some games and some plays are fiddled with. All they would have to do would be to pay the coaches to call the wrong plays and watch their own team implode. Paying two people would do it.

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