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salary cap space for NFL next season

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Jagfish, Dec 10, 2007.

  1. Jagfish

    Jagfish Season Ticket Holder

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    From Peter King:
    We have 48 guys under contract and plenty of room.


    Team Signed Players 2008 cap room
    1. Tennessee 39 $40.85 million
    2. San Diego 44 $33.03 million
    3. Jacksonville 43 $32.69 million
    4. Buffalo 49 $32.05 million
    5. New Orleans 39 $31.69 million
    6. Cincinnati 48 $31.45 million
    7. San Francisco 48 $30.91 million
    8. Cleveland 42 $30.31 million
    9. Arizona 34 $30.27 million
    10.N.Y. Jets 45 $27.72 million
    11.Oakland 40 $25.98 million
    12.Tampa Bay 48 $25.90 million
    13.Miami 48 $25.56 million
    14.N.Y. Giants 49 $24.47 million
    15.Detroit 42 $23.50 million
    16.Houston 43 $22.91 million
    17.Dallas 40 $20.61 million
    18.Kansas City 44 $20.27 million
    19.Chicago 52 $19.80 million
    20.Pittsburgh 43 $18.61 million
    21.Green Bay 48 $18.37 million
    22.Philadelphia 49 $17.17 million
    23.Denver 49 $16.77 million
    24.Minnesota 49 $14.88 million
    25.New England 41 $10.93 million
    26.St. Louis 45 $9.61 million
    27.Seattle 44 $9.55 million
    28.Indianapolis 48 $8.49 million
    29.Carolina 35 $6.05 million
    30.Atlanta 52 $5.79 million*
    31.Baltimore 42 $5.00 million
    32.Washington 45 -$20.72
     
  2. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    That figure will change, for the better:

    Zach Thomas will retire, or be made to. No point in killing yourself for a game, no matter how much he'll be missed.

    Jason Taylor looks as though he is starting to become a parhia (sp) in the locker room. I understand he is frustrated, proud and tired, but it is what it is. keeping him will blow the team up. He is respected in the locker room, and his actions have affects. We need to get what we can for him and move on.

    Trent Green will be off the books.

    Keith Traylor will be too.

    We will be over 30 mill before the start of the next FA period I bet you.
     
  3. Canes_Fan_83

    Canes_Fan_83 New Member

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    Do we use it?! I'm just ready to use it! There's just so many solid FA's this year and we need to capitalize on them, and decide the worth/value of our current players. I think we really need to eval the entire franchise, not just threaten to do so.
     
  4. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    I'm not a cap genius but i dont think it is as simple as your making it sound. I could be wrong but i dont think their cap numbers just out of no where dissappear. I know Marty Bookers will, thats 4 mill right there, but boy does our WR core look weak without him there. (Granted, they dont look too good WITH him there.)
     
  5. Samphin

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    I would use it on Asante Samuel. Sure, he is going to be expensive (possibly even outpacing Nate Clements) but I think he would solidify our cornerbacks in a big way.

    Think about a starting lineup of Will Allen and Asante Samuel. Goodman, Lehan and Daniels are your backups. I don't know about you, but I can get into a cornerback unit that shakes out this way.

    It also helps free up a draft pick that can be used elsewhere to shore up another hole.
     
  6. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    Draft Dorsey/Long, Sign Asante, Draft/sign another decent LB...

    Defense would certainly turn a corner next year.
     
  7. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    If zach retires, then his salary doesn't count for next year. Same with Traylor.

    Plus when did I say that all of their salaries were gonna disappear? I just said the number will go up. It is no different than when a player is released for salary cap purposes, it is done for relief. Not all of the salry goes in that instance but enough to still create cap space. it is not like I'm talking about some new concept here.

    And P.S. what is the difference between Booker's and all the others I mentioned, not much - maybe the final year of a contract?

    All I'm saying is that those guys leaving will make more room, how much more I'm not sure. But, with all those guys we would surely save 5 mill don't you think?
     
  8. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    Doesn't matter what our cap situation is - we're not going to sign any OMG free agents in the offseason.
     
  9. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Very true, but lesser guys will want to be paid, and we need depth too.
     
  10. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    I don't know if I have faith anymore that Cam/Randy will use it and use it well.
     
  11. mmikel30

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    Draft All Defense Use Free Agency For Offense
     
  12. Bonedoc7777

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    they must invest in the offensive and defensive lines in FA, we may have to overpay, but that is the only way to get competitive fast
     
  13. Brown42000

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    Marcus Trufant has to be a target this offseason or possibly Samuel because NE won't be able to sign him and Moss and Stallworth. Terrell Suggs or Haynesworth would be nice also but I think Haynesworth will get the franchise tag. They must re-sign Rex Hadnot this offseason he is a big part of the o-line.
     
  14. Clumpy

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    Can see The Ralph!!
    Did someone say salary cap?
     
  15. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Hey, Clump do your #'s jive?

    How do we look good man!
     
  16. hof13

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    Booker is still playing under the contract he signed with the Bears. They took the cap hit for his prorated bonuses when they traded him, so we're not on the hook for any dead money.
     
  17. lbmclean_sj

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    the FA competition is going to be hellacious next year

    we will be best suited to grab 2-3 solid guys and stay away from the big fish

    it would be nice to get some backups who can play ST also
     
  18. fastball83

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    I prefer a cheaper truffant than samuel but it's Just MO
     
  19. billsfaninpeace

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    Trufant will not be that much cheaper. Look for him to probably get exactly Clements Money

    And Samual getting more
     
  20. miami234ever

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    I don't understand why nobody else here is talking about Asomugha. He is the best CB in the league, has Randy Moss length and speed, knows Randy Moss's game, and did I mention he's the only CB around that can cover Randy Moss? You know, that stud WR in NE. He is who we should target. Asomugha and W Allen complement each other perfectly as well.
     
  21. lbmclean_sj

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    the amortized bonuses for Zach and JT will accelerate if they are cut, traded or retire

    I think there might be a cap room loss for this but I am not sure
     
  22. hof13

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    Not necessarily.

    First off, Zach's contract is up in 2008 I believe, so his 2008 prorated bonus stays on the books regardless. There is no bonus impact for cutting him or trading him.

    JT's contract is up in 2009, so there's about $2M of 2009 bonus that would accelerate on a Pre-June 2 trade or cut*. However, if he's cut or traded after June 1, then the 2009 proration would stay on the 2009 cap and there's no impact.

    * If he's cut before June 2, the dolphins could use an exemption to treat him as a Post June 1 so there could be no impact on a Pre-June 2 cut.
     
  23. Bonedoc7777

    Bonedoc7777 New Member

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    were is asomugha from
     
  24. Believerinteal

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    It would be funny if Thomas was traded and he pulls a Jake Plummer.
     
  25. lbmclean_sj

    lbmclean_sj New Member

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    good news!!!

    time flies I guess
     
  26. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    I don't see any reason for Thomas to put on a helmet ever again. It's just not worth jeopardizing any more of his brain cells he's no doubt lost playing his heart out for this team.
     
  27. DeDolfan

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    Normally, that would be good. But as it is, there are 12 teams better than us with more $$ to spend!! ;)
     
  28. NorFlaFin

    NorFlaFin Active Member

    I'm thinking both ZT and JT have restructure their deals so many times the only thing left is pure salary.

    I think: Cutting/retiring does not impact the cap when the players deal is pure salary.
     
  29. hof13

    hof13 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Actually, when they restructured what they did was change base salary dollars from the current year to a signing bonus. That meant those dollars were prorated across the life of the contract for salary cap purposes, but they still got the same amount of real money for the current year.

    That gained temporary cap relief for the year they restructures, and we're paying the price for that now.

    Zach still has $2.4M or so bonus money that's on the 2008 books whether he plays or not. JT has $2M in 2008 that is there regardless of whether he is on the team or not. There's another $2M in 2009 that may or may not accelerate into the 2008 cap.
     
  30. mmikel30

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    i don't understand how Cleavland, Jacksonville and Tampa have more cap space than us especially tampa
     

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