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THE OFFICIAL MIAMI HEAT SUMMER of 2010 Thread.

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  1. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Players under Contract:

    Dwyane Wade -Bird Rule Resign.
    James Jones
    Daequan Cook
    Michael Beasley

    Option pickup

    Mario Chalmers

    Re-ups

    Udonis Haslem
    Dorell Wright
    Quentin Richardson


    Max Contract Targets (1) + (1) Jr. max


    Amare Stoudmire
    Chris Bosh
    Lebron James
    Carlos Boozer
    Joe Johnson
    Rudy Gay- Option S&T - Restricted


    Bench Targets/Complimentary:


    Raja Bell
    Josh Howard (Team Option - owed $11.8 million in 10/11)
    Brad Miller
    Jermaine O'Neal
    Kenyon Martin (ETO - owed $16.5 million in 10/11)
    Mike Miller
    Nate Robinson
    Brendan Haywood
    Zydrunas Ilgauskas
    Al Harrington
    Kyle Korver
    Drew Gooden
    Luis Scola (restricted)
    Sergio Rodriguez (unrestricted if Knicks don't offer QO)
    John Salmons (ETO – owed $5.8 million in 10/11)
    Tyson Chandler (ETO - owed $12.8 million in 10/11)
    T.J. Ford (PO - owed $8.5 million in 10/11)
    Travis Outlaw
    Earl Watson
    Larry Hughes
    Luke Ridnour
    Louis Amundson
    Channing Frye (PO - owed $2.1 million in 10/11)
    Grant Hill (PO - owed $3.3 million in 10/11)
    Steve Blake
    Ben Wallace
    Tony Allen
    Marquis Daniels
    Amir Johnson
    Leon Powe (team option)
    Anthony Morrow (restricted)
    C.J. Watson (restricted)
    Kelenna Azubuike (PO – owed $3.3 million in 10/11)
    Jordan Farmer (restricted)
    Shannon Brown (PO – owed $2.2 million in 10/11)
    Joe Alexander
    Hakim Warrick
    Chris Duhon
    Derek Fisher
    Marcus Williams
    Mo Evans
    Shelden Williams
    Stephen Graham
    Damien Wilkins
    Luther Head
    Rasual Butler
    Kurt Thomas
    Bobby Simmons
    Tony Battie
    Trenton Hassell
    Sean Williams
    Jarvis Hayes
    Rodney Carney
    Desmond Mason
    Sean May
    Etan Thomas
    Kenny Thomas
    Tim Thomas


    Restricted:


    Tyrus Thomas
    J.J. Redick
    Randy Foye
    Kyle Lowry
    Ronnie Brewer
     
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  2. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    First reply.

    Wade and Riles have made us wait 2-3 years for this. Better make it count, guys.
     
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  3. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    You think you guys have it bad? Try being a Knick fan. See I made you feel 100x better. :pity:

    I look forward to both our teams getting better and seeing a rivalry renewed :wink2:
     
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  4. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    I have a rule: never feel bad for a New York team. After all, they hurt themselves trying to buy championships every year. A little cellar-dwelling is good for the ego. :shifty:
     
  5. High Definition

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    July 2010: The future of the Miami Heat begins; The future for all else ends.

    OHHHH! brb updating Facebook & Twitter status.
     
  6. Big E

    Big E Plus sized porn star

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    The Cowboys of the basketball world.
     
  7. Finsanity

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    This thread is gonna be great or a disaster.
     
  8. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    It is gonna be great.

    The Thread is not the "Official new Yawk Knicks do the bron Bron and hold it down Thread."

    so we are safe.

    We have Pat Riley.
     
  9. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    In Riley we trust.
     
  10. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    :knucks:
     
  11. Dolphinsfan69

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    Do we have the money to bring back UD, Chalmers, Q, Dorell if we go the Max/Junior Max route?
     
  12. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Yes.

    I would say NO on Que though...Que has value and if we do what I suspect we will do (Sign Raja Bell) Then Que won;t be needed and he will get around 3 mil a year which is alot for a 8th man..
     
  13. High Definition

    High Definition No Smoke / No Drink 2011+

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    Had an interesting conversation with an interesting person today.

    All I'm going to say is, "Bye Beasley."

    Surprise. Our top target going into free agency isn't even a free agent. Chris Paul will be discussed and pursued heavily. Darren Collison as well. Hornets will move one, preferably Collison, but only if they can get another team to take on Peja and/or Okafor. This works for Miami in a Michael Beasley deal with Cook and/or James Jones included, as taking on Collison/Okafor would still allow Miami to sign a max free agent and have around mid-level money remaining to fill out the roster, but this also gives us two starters.

    Imagine walking into training camp with Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh/Amare/Boozer, Emeka Okafor, Darren Collison, Udonis Haslem, Q-Rich/Dorell, Anthony, minimum guys like Raja Bell, and perhaps a mid level player.

    It's a scary though.
     
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  14. High Definition

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    New ownership coming in for New Orleans is the reason why they might be willing to move Chris Paul. People around Chris Paul believe that he truly wants out. If you want to talk about the Wade/LBJ friendship which is the only reason why we're even connected to LBJ (which won't happen), make note that Dwyane Wade's best friend in the business aside from Q-Rich & Dorell is Chris Paul.

    Ultimately, I think they move Collison instead. But it would not surprise me if they keep Collison (younger and cheaper) and completely rebuild/wipe out pay roll by moving Chris Paul, especially if he requests a trade which many believe will happen.
     
  15. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    I have heard the Chris Paul thing.

    if we do it...we have to abandon any junior max discussions for a SF. but we will have to explore shooters...Korver?

    It changes the makeup of what our lineup will look like to close the 4th quarter.
     
  16. Big E

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    I dont like the idea. I love CP3 but I think we need a big to go with Wade.
     
  17. Ludacris

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    Why is that? what's the difference between picking up Chris Paul + jnr max and picking up max + jnr max?

    Also...which guys are being looked at for jnr max contracts?
     
  18. padre31

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    Bro, I hope so, George Shinn is my list, when the Hornets were in Charlotte they led the NBA in attendance, he pulled the plug and moved to NO after dealing LJ and Alonzo Mourning and Kobe Bryant.

    They gave away Tyson Chandler, Shinn is such a skinflint it would not surprise me to see CP dealt.

    Which imho would be 50% of the Heat's battle, they need an inside presence with JO appearing to be d-o-n-e and UH more of an auxilliary player.

    Meanwhile, I'm waiting to see if Sect's 2009 prediction that a "lost" season, a non competitive one, leads to two MAX FA's, or whether DWade's vow that "this is the last first round playoff series I lose I can tell you that" holds true if the Heat are shut out this year.
     
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  19. MikeHoncho

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    Assuming Wade stays... :escape:
     
  20. TiP54

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    Live from the Internet.
    Every time you go to bed, you assume you wake up to see the next day.
    Same exact situation.
     
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  21. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Oh I wasnt asking you to feel bad for a NY team, I was just pointing out other teams have had it worse then your heat. Im pretty confident I'll feel a lot better after 7/1/10. :yes:
     
  22. Desides

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    I'll feel better when Wade has another ring or three. :lol:
     
  23. Boik14

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    Stop being greedy dude, he already got one :tongue2:
     
  24. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    He still has nine empty fingers. And ten empty toes. :hi5:
     
  25. Boik14

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    I dont think they make championship rings for toes bro. Give Bill Russell a call to confirm that. :lol:
     
  26. Desides

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    We'll find out in a few years. :up:
     
  27. Section126

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    That would happen too.

    All I am saying is that adding CP3 kills any star SF designs such as Rudy Gay or Joe Johnson.
     
  28. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    You actually have doubts? LOL

    it was not a prediction. it was me with a calculator and the espn trade machine page. In case, you forgot, I was proven right two weeks ago when the NBA released their Cap figure and Andy Wojo proclaimed the heat as the Kings of free agency.

    Get real Padre. There are no monsters under your bed. 2 + 2 is always 4.
     
  29. Section126

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    The options are these:


    Trade Beasley for Paul = Paul, Wade + MAX +MLE.

    Trade Beasley for Nothing to facilitate another deal= Wade +MAX + MAX or Wade +MAX + Jr. Max + Jr. Max (in this case, there will be a danger of overpaying for somebody)

    Do nothing, and just go into free Agency = Wade + Jr. Max + MAX


    Jr. max candidates are guys that are willing to take 5 years 50 million or so...

    It will depend on the market.

    best Path is to trade Beasley to Memphis and get Rudy Gay back out at a decent price of around 5 years for 65 mil, and try to grab a Conley out as well. We woudl then still have enough to get Amare or Bosh, and then have the MLE to split as well.
     
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  30. schmolioot

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    Would Memphis want Beas when they're locked into Zach Randolph? When does his contract expire?

    I know Heisley is cheap, but he may want to try and keep Gay. Memphis is a team on the rise.
     
  31. PhiNomina

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    Not trying to hijack thread but I have heard similar things about Paul being available (and being linked to Cleveland for the same reasons as Miami - he is Bron's best friend in the NBA).

    Obviously Miami makes more sense but thought that two different teams are hearing the same rumor lent some credibility to it.
     
  32. padre31

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    You would be lucky to get a bottle of hennessey and a pack of tic tacs for Real Cool Beas..:D

    And it was a prediction Sect, this season was to be sacrificed for two MAX FA's which of course I found laughable in view of DWade being a FA as well.

    One was certain that MAX money would keep DW in Miami, my contention was you cannot do that to a ultra competitive player, they want to win at all times and would be less than thrilled if they thought the FO was not on that same page.

    And Shinn WILL peddle Chris Paul, G Shinn is just a skinflint, I'd like to see CP in Miami, but they need a inside presence who can score or they will be the Mavericks moving forwards..tons of jump shots..
     
  33. Section126

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    .......
     
  34. Section126

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    We are in a better spot to do the deal. We have expirings and a prospect.
     
  35. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    If anything it is even funnier, one assumes only cash drives players, that is not how it works, if so the Nets new owner could have LeBron, Wade, Amare and the luxury tax means -0-...but none of those players are signing in NJ.


    Odd, where did Odom end up resigning?


    Not much, what makes you think they will wind up in Miami? There are how many teams out there that can offer a MAX contract AND the chance to "the guy" in a situation that fits what they are looking for?

    As for Beas, don't hold your breath, in 2 yrs he hasn't shown that he is ready to play Big Boy basketball, why take on that sort of contract for a player who doesn't do anything particularly well?
     
  36. Section126

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    You are just being a contrarian for the hell of it Padre.
     
  37. Section126

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    For the last time...it is like a broken record.

    the Miami HEAT..is the ONLY TEAM.

    as in..5, 4,3,2,........1.

    ONE TEAM. THE ONLY TEAM..as in CINGULAR..TEAM that has a MAx FA on the roster to resign and can add a MAX free agent. and if that is not enough..they still have enough left for a Junior max contract as well as a chip to trade in Beasley.


    me and HD PREDICTED THIS 18 months ago. it became a reality two weeks ago with the NBA's announcement.

    it is a wrap...why do you think a OFFSEASON has a thread?
     
  38. Section126

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    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-miami-heat-dwyane-wade-s042810,0,649787.story

    Wade basically announces he will resign...and makes it clear that the Money is IMPORTANT, and that Him, Udonis Haslem and Dorrell Wright are basically a package.

    very revealing article.

    In Chicago..there is one lonely tear coming down the face of a Bulls fan.
     
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  39. padre31

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    No, not in this, imho the assumptions that were made heading into the 09 season were unwise, FA's are odd ducks Sect, never forget that, what would on paper look like a perfect situation sometimes is just not reality.

    I want DWade to have another shot at a title or three, but throwing away 2 seasons is not conducive to keeping him in Miami.

    Keep in mind, he opted out of his last yr on his contract, now when they bring in FA's until Wade signs they will not be 100% on Wade being here, there are a number of problems such as that in Riley's plan.

    FA's may not wish to be second fiddle to Wade, they may think their game and Wade's won't mesh, they may wish to play with Lebron and take less money, there are a number of things that can go wrong with throwing away 2 seasons based on assumptions.
     
  40. Section126

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    sigh. you are being contrarian for the hell of it.

    The Lakers threw away 4 seasons. the heat "threw away" two.

    he opted out because 22 million is more than 14 million padre. he has a brain in his head. seriously. come on.


    NOBODY CAN PLAY with Lebron. Cleveland is capped out. WHICH PART OF "ONLY TEAM" don't you understand?
     
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